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Leo Posted - 10/13/2005 : 06:44:39 AM
Hey guys! Just thought I'd update you on what's going on with the EB. I know it's for sale, but that doesn't mean I don't want to drive it! Also, I've gotten a lot of PM/emails about that. The general consensus is "WTF LEO!?" Oh how two little words ring so deeply! The answer is, one of my rigs has to go. I have a pretty serious buyer in line for the XJ. If that goes through, you'll see me retracting my for sale thread. I've had "A LOT" of people contact me about my EB. That's awesome! I've met a lot of cool ass people! However, no one's commited. So, C'est la vie! Trust me.... you're loss! (I'm only cocky about the rig because I've learned quite a bit about these things to know this is a good one).

Any way...

Last night I got the gas tank's wires all done up and prettied up. That includes the pump. I also got my supply/return lines to the tank done, capped off one of the return/vent lines and hooked up my filler and vent hoses. It was more of a bitch than I thought it would be because I had to drop the tank and skid due to limited space and I have my tank tucked all the way up. That sucked, but it's done.

Tonight I'm going to hook up Ryan's headlight harness... finally! I had it hooked up once before but yanked it when I cut my rad core. That shouldn't take too much time.

All of my wires are ran including the 3G alternator. What a simple mod that is! I still need to hook up/solder all the front running lights, but that's really all that's left. I even have the guages ran (original cluster) and the ignition. I'm hoping I hooked to the right wire from Ryan's EFI harness to my RF panel. I used a voltmeter and put the ignition in the on position and off position to find a wire that switches off and on from the key. There were two. I figure since Ryan's wire is orange and there's a orange one on the keyed ignition, I'll just use it. If it's not the one, I'll just switch it over.

I'm really starting to love that Ron Francis guy. He's pretty smart in realizing that people may want to expand in the future. There are many positions open on the panel for future stuff, should I (or the next owner) decide that they need more toys in there. It's pretty neato!

I still gotta put all the fluids in 'er, then I "could" try to fire it up. After that, I'll clean up the interior wiring, panel, and ECU. I still haven't figured out how to mount that crap but you know me by now. I'll figure something out.

Oh!!! Quick question: does anyone know what the stock mustang (92 GT HO) timing set at? I know I need to be at 10* BTDC for my application but is that what the mustangs were set at (around our about)? If so, I'll try to fire it up tonight. If not, I gotta borrow a buddy's timing light.

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Leo Posted - 07/30/2006 : 05:49:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Socal Tom

Ryan's harness may have disabled the EGR. Might be worth reviewing his instructions and testing the install per the instructions on the SEFI page here.
Tom



Yeah, just did... it's nothing. His harness doesn't have anything on it for the EGR. As a matter of fact, I could buy an upgrade that closes the EGR circuit but it shouldn't make me "not" run.

I read some other tricks on the ford truck enthusiast board and over on stangnet. I'm hoping to get this fixed soon.
Socal Tom Posted - 07/29/2006 : 1:14:51 PM
Ryan's harness may have disabled the EGR. Might be worth reviewing his instructions and testing the install per the instructions on the SEFI page here.
Tom
Leo Posted - 07/29/2006 : 1:00:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Socal Tom

You can check the key on engine off codes. It will check the sensors and stuff. It should start with the carb cleaner. Check the compression, and make sure you don't have a head gasket leak. I'd pull the plugs and inspect them.
Tom



Funny thing is, I tried the Key On Engine Off test, and I hear it start testing relays and stuff... then... nothing. WTF? I tried it over and over again, and waited up to 10 minutes. I'm getting no codes from the ECU.

I did find that my EEGR has a port that some type of electrical connector is supposed-to hook up to. It's in the back of the engine, off the throttle body, and the port is facing downward. Should there be a connector there? There's nothing on there now, and I didn't know if it was some test port or something.
Socal Tom Posted - 07/29/2006 : 12:14:09 PM
You can check the key on engine off codes. It will check the sensors and stuff. It should start with the carb cleaner. Check the compression, and make sure you don't have a head gasket leak. I'd pull the plugs and inspect them.
Tom
Leo Posted - 07/29/2006 : 10:50:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Socal Tom

Sounds way lean to me. Check the fuel flow, and maybe add some better gas. Do my carb cleaner test.
Tom



I just added about 5 gallons of 93 octane fuel to the tank, cycled it, and squirt some carb cleaner in the throttle body. It still won't start up. How Now Brown Cow? I got a code scanner, but I think the engine has to be running to pull the codes.
Socal Tom Posted - 07/29/2006 : 08:09:38 AM
Sounds way lean to me. Check the fuel flow, and maybe add some better gas. Do my carb cleaner test.
Tom
Leo Posted - 07/29/2006 : 07:37:09 AM
Well, the tranny was an easy fix. My fluid levels were down about a quart and a half. Wise man once told me that he didn't know of a stock C4 that didn't leak.

So, I ran the engine for awhile. I've noticed that the thermostat didn't open. The upper-rad hose is super stiff. I have burped the system with the rad cap off and the t-stat opened, then. It just doesn't seem to want to open now. Maybe it's not getting hot enough? Hmmm...

Anyway, same deal. I got everything in there, and the engine won't start. It turns over fine. Matter of fact, a lot of white, eye-burning smoke was coming from the back of the rig, when I was trying to crank it over. Any thoughts?
Leo Posted - 07/28/2006 : 10:14:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Socal Tom

If it's not starting cold today, then It's probably fuel. Your injectors might have gotten clogged. Thats why the carb cleaner can help test. You do have a fuel filter between teh tank and the pumps right?

Tom



I have one there, and after the pump. I may need to pull them off and push some air through there, though... just in case. Damn new tanks!
Socal Tom Posted - 07/28/2006 : 10:00:59 AM
If it's not starting cold today, then It's probably fuel. Your injectors might have gotten clogged. Thats why the carb cleaner can help test. You do have a fuel filter between teh tank and the pumps right?

Tom
Leo Posted - 07/28/2006 : 09:53:20 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Socal Tom

If your mass air, then you don't hook vacuum to the BAP sensor. ( Same sensor but they do different stuff on MA vs SD)
Tom



Yeah, I think we discussed this before. I do have a BAP sensor hooked up to Ryan's harness, but no vacuum line hooked up.

This is troubling. I'm going to have to work a checklist that I got off of the stangnet forum to see what the deal is. I'm getting spark from the coil, that's for sure. I didn't do an individual plug test, or spray ether/carb cleaner in the TB yet. I'm starting to think it's fuel related, though, although I am squirting gas from the shrader pretty well.
Socal Tom Posted - 07/28/2006 : 09:49:06 AM
If your mass air, then you don't hook vacuum to the BAP sensor. ( Same sensor but they do different stuff on MA vs SD)
Tom
Leo Posted - 07/28/2006 : 09:28:10 AM
Oh, and sorry about the late reply... site was down, or something... couldn't get on this morning... hmmmmmmmm......
Leo Posted - 07/28/2006 : 09:27:38 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Socal Tom

Well Leo, it's spark, air or fuel.
To check for spark, I'd put a timing light on a plug wire and watch it while you are cranking. If it flashes you are good.
I'll assume that you don't have a rag in the intake or something silly. So lets assume you have air.

Now... if you have a vacuum leak it might make it hard to start when hot. The ECU will try to richen the mixture with extra fuel when cold, but not so much hot, so if it's too lean because of vacuum leaks that might be something. Try spraying some carb cleaner in the intake and then starting it. Then check for vacuum leaks. Your running speed density right? Did you get the vacuum lines hooked back up to the MAP sensor?
Tom



I think I'm Mass Air not SD. There's a vacuum line that goes to the MAP Sensor? Is that the one on the air box, going to the throttle body?

I'm pretty sure my vacuums off the manifold (plenum) are snug. The big one goes to the Power Brakes, one little one goes to the C4 Modulator. The other one is plugged off. There's some other hose thing that goes from the plenum to the intake is tight too.

Gas? It fires up... I hear gas running through the thing... I don't have a gauge on there, but I'm sure that's not an issue. It was about half full when I parked it. I may put some booster in there later, though.
Socal Tom Posted - 07/28/2006 : 08:57:57 AM
One more thing? Does it have gas in it? It's been sitting a long time.
Tom
Socal Tom Posted - 07/27/2006 : 8:42:22 PM
Well Leo, it's spark, air or fuel.
To check for spark, I'd put a timing light on a plug wire and watch it while you are cranking. If it flashes you are good.
I'll assume that you don't have a rag in the intake or something silly. So lets assume you have air.

Now... if you have a vacuum leak it might make it hard to start when hot. The ECU will try to richen the mixture with extra fuel when cold, but not so much hot, so if it's too lean because of vacuum leaks that might be something. Try spraying some carb cleaner in the intake and then starting it. Then check for vacuum leaks. Your running speed density right? Did you get the vacuum lines hooked back up to the MAP sensor?
Tom
Leo Posted - 07/27/2006 : 7:53:06 PM
Okay, guys... I need your help.

I have a warm start problem. When it's cold, it starts up quickly. Like a champ! But when it's warm, it won't start at all. Here's what I've done:

- I checked the coil. Good spark coming from it. It's very new.
- I replaced the ECT Sensor. It wasn't that bad.
- I replaced the ACT Sensor... It had a lot of build up on it.
- It wouldn't start, so I bought a new TFI/Ignition module. Still... no start.

Does the ECU just shut it all down for a long time, or do I need to reset it, or am I just messing with all the wrong stuff. It's been over 3 hours, and it still won't start. It sounds like it wants to, but it's very weak, and stops trying to turn over, pretty quickly. I'm thinking the ECT or ACT told the computer something. Is there a way to bypass the ECU and see if it'll fire up? Over and over again? I'm starting to think it's my ECU. It's the only thing I haven't replaced, but I heard those things are pretty tough.

Any help would rock!

Oh, and Tom, yes, I was low on Tranny fluid. haha!
Leo Posted - 07/27/2006 : 11:22:25 AM
Man, my driveway was sealed so I didn't do anything outside last night. I'll do everything tonight, hopefully. My wife quit her job, so I have to get things moving quicker than expected.
Leo Posted - 07/26/2006 : 1:34:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Socal Tom

When you put in the modulator did it have the little pin in the hole?
Are you sure it has enough fluid in the tranny?
Tom



Yeah, the pin was reused from my old modulator.
It had plenty of fluid in it before I parked it... I'll double-check that tonight, too. I'm headed home now.
Socal Tom Posted - 07/26/2006 : 12:45:52 PM
When you put in the modulator did it have the little pin in the hole?
Are you sure it has enough fluid in the tranny?
Tom
Leo Posted - 07/26/2006 : 12:39:22 PM
It's not engaging. Possibly my modulator? I was sure the T/C was in gear for sure. I even tried moving in 4L.
Socal Tom Posted - 07/26/2006 : 07:51:21 AM
Is it not shifting, or just not engaging when you put it in gear? Make sure the T/C is in gear.
Tom
( KISS engineer)
Leo Posted - 07/26/2006 : 07:30:25 AM
The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to believe that it's my ECT sensor that is causing my warm start problem. I'll try that tonight.

Still can't figure out my tranny issue. I'll recheck the fluid level tonight, too. It just won't go into gear.
Leo Posted - 07/25/2006 : 7:19:29 PM
I'm having some problems. The engine starts up cold perfectly but after turning it off, it don't want to start up again. I don't think it's the ignition module or the TFI coil since they are both new. I'm kind-of losing my mind over this.

Also, the tranny won't go into gear, now... sheesh.... fun! fun! I'm sure it's something stupid I forgot to do...
Leo Posted - 07/24/2006 : 8:02:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by broncow

Sweet. We'll be neighbors. Where are you looking specifically? Need any info on certain areas? I don't know what you're looking to spend, but might be able to give some insight on hidden treasures. The biggest thing I find annoying is the many deed restrictions in most (if not all) neighborhoods.



I'm trying to convince the wife that we need some land, out far from the city, but she likes the city. To be honest, man... I'm leaving it all up to her. She wants a pool, I want an oversized garage. 4 bedrooms, 2-3 baths, and at least 2000 sq. ft. We have deed restrictions here, too, but they aren't that bad. I hear The Woodlands is nice, but has a lot of restrictions.

We'll have to get together, man. My wife is staying up here until the house sells, and it'll just be me and buddy down in H-Town for a little bit. We'll have to catch a game/grub/etc... one of these nights. You're rig, I'm sure, will be a main topic.



Oh, updated on the rig... <made me forget what I was doing here>

I got a new battery in there tonight. Fired right up. I burped the coolant system and topped it off. Of course, it didn't want to start up after I shut it down. After doing some research, it would appear that I need some "heat sink compound" not dielectric grease for the back of my TFI module. I'm pretty sure that's what's doing this because the coil is new. I don't want to fire it up tonight, so I'll wait until tomorrow to get the heat sink compound on there, and try, try again.
broncow Posted - 07/24/2006 : 6:48:52 PM
Sweet. We'll be neighbors. Where are you looking specifically? Need any info on certain areas? I don't know what you're looking to spend, but might be able to give some insight on hidden treasures. The biggest thing I find annoying is the many deed restrictions in most (if not all) neighborhoods.

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